Dual Citizenship

I just wanted to say Congratulations and Félicitations !! to two ladies who have gained dual citizenship. I am extremely happy and excited for them.  They worked very hard for this and survived the year-long application process. They give me hope that I’ll be able to become a dual citizen one day too.

+ Erica is American, and now French, as of April 21st.

+ Zhu is French, and will be Canadian on July 3rd.

To become a French citizen, you have to wait two years if you are working toward or have completed a graduate degree at a French university; four years if you are married to a French citizen and lived in France for all four years (otherwise, it is five years if you do not live in France); or five years if you have lived and worked in France continuously (sometimes a CDI is required though.)

You can also apply for the 10 year carte de résident (instead of the 1 year carte de séjour year after year…) if you have been married to a French citizen for three years or if you’ve lived in France continuously for three years, but you have to prove your “worthiness” to the préfecture and have the mayor of your town approve it. And of course, some préfectures require five years and a minimum salary of something like 11,000 € for each year spent in France. (Don’t you just love how something as important as your legal status in France is completely random depending on where you live?

I haven’t asked my préfecture yet what their requirements are for the carte de résident. I have lived in France since September 2006, but until March 2008, I was on a travailleur temporaire card, so those don’t really count for anything. Maybe in March 2011 I can apply for it if I can convince them that there should be no legal difference between marriage and PACS. In any case, I’m hoping to apply for French citizenship once I’m a few years into my PhD, which I will hopefully start in 2010.

Zhu is doing a series of posts on immigrating to Canada, so check out her blog if you’re interested.

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  • http://emilylaparisienne.blogspot.com/ emilyinparis

    And what about if you’re married to a French citizen and you have a French masters (m2) degree?
    .-= emilyinparis´s last blog ..Busy Bee =-.

  • http://emilylaparisienne.blogspot.com/ emilyinparis

    And what about if you’re married to a French citizen and you have a French masters (m2) degree?
    .-= emilyinparis´s last blog ..Busy Bee =-.

  • http://davidsswamp.blogspot.com/ David

    Is it possible to have dual citizenship when you’re American?
    I always thought, you couldn’t? I mean, when you’re born American.
    .-= David´s last blog ..Day Five: May 22nd – Moats Full af Seawater and Pharmacies that Will Make You Sick =-.

  • http://davidsswamp.blogspot.com David

    Is it possible to have dual citizenship when you’re American?
    I always thought, you couldn’t? I mean, when you’re born American.
    .-= David´s last blog ..Day Five: May 22nd – Moats Full af Seawater and Pharmacies that Will Make You Sick =-.

  • ksam

    Of course Americans can have dual citizenship David!

    And both a friend and I were told that if you are pacsed, you have to have five years of PACS before you can ask for the 10yr card. So even though I have been here six years and have CDI, they still wouldn’t give it to me because I have only been pacsed for 4yrs.

  • ksam

    Of course Americans can have dual citizenship David!

    And both a friend and I were told that if you are pacsed, you have to have five years of PACS before you can ask for the 10yr card. So even though I have been here six years and have CDI, they still wouldn’t give it to me because I have only been pacsed for 4yrs.

  • http://www.correresmidestino.com/ Zhu

    It is a common myth that Americans can not have dual citizenship… I thought that too until I was told otherwise!

    Thank you very much for your félicitations :-) I know you understand what we go through when applying for immigrant, and then citizenship… different countries, different dreams but the same old bureaucracy on the way!

    I’m not surprised to see how confusing it is to get French citizenship. So many status, so many rules!
    .-= Zhu´s last blog ..Texas Style =-.

  • http://www.correresmidestino.com Zhu

    It is a common myth that Americans can not have dual citizenship… I thought that too until I was told otherwise!

    Thank you very much for your félicitations :-) I know you understand what we go through when applying for immigrant, and then citizenship… different countries, different dreams but the same old bureaucracy on the way!

    I’m not surprised to see how confusing it is to get French citizenship. So many status, so many rules!
    .-= Zhu´s last blog ..Texas Style =-.

  • http://laprochainefois.blogspot.com/ Cathy

    congrats to them, and good luck to you!
    .-= Cathy´s last blog ..summer happenings =-.

  • http://laprochainefois.blogspot.com Cathy

    congrats to them, and good luck to you!
    .-= Cathy´s last blog ..summer happenings =-.

  • http://www.ielanguages.com Jennie Wagner

    Emily, you can apply because of your Master’s but sometimes they want you to have a CDI too. You should check it out though.

    I wonder where the myth that we can’t have dual citizenship came from? I can hardly believe it when I hear about countries that don’t allow it! Triple citizenship is possible for some countries too.

    Sam, I hope your citizenship goes through soon. You’ve been here long enough to deserve to no longer deal with the stupid prefecture!

  • http://www.ielanguages.com Jennie

    Emily, you can apply because of your Master’s but sometimes they want you to have a CDI too. You should check it out though.

    I wonder where the myth that we can’t have dual citizenship came from? I can hardly believe it when I hear about countries that don’t allow it! Triple citizenship is possible for some countries too.

    Sam, I hope your citizenship goes through soon. You’ve been here long enough to deserve to no longer deal with the stupid prefecture!

  • http://www.wickedfrenchkiss.com/ Erica

    Thanks Jennie ! It was a lot of hard work (there’s a lot of paperwork to gather and hoops to jump through), but it was well worth it. Now I can take the concours, lucky me ! Good luck for whenever you decide to take the plunge !

  • http://www.wickedfrenchkiss.com Erica

    Thanks Jennie ! It was a lot of hard work (there’s a lot of paperwork to gather and hoops to jump through), but it was well worth it. Now I can take the concours, lucky me ! Good luck for whenever you decide to take the plunge !

  • edward

    thanks for all the info jeannie! great help. was wondering if i am correct that this is the fastest way towards citizenship in france (from the US):

    you mentioned two years if you are or have a graduate degree (i assume this is masters?) from a french university. i am planning on grad school and might do it in paris, would take 2 years probably.

    could i start grad school in a french university and apply a year later or so and wait for it? there isn’t much information on the grad school route…

    if it helps, i’m sure i’d find somebody to PACS or marry…so can you please elaborate on the 2 year / graduate study thing?
    thanks and keep up teh good work!

  • edward

    thanks for all the info jeannie! great help. was wondering if i am correct that this is the fastest way towards citizenship in france (from the US):

    you mentioned two years if you are or have a graduate degree (i assume this is masters?) from a french university. i am planning on grad school and might do it in paris, would take 2 years probably.

    could i start grad school in a french university and apply a year later or so and wait for it? there isn’t much information on the grad school route…

    if it helps, i’m sure i’d find somebody to PACS or marry…so can you please elaborate on the 2 year / graduate study thing?
    thanks and keep up teh good work!

  • Nick

    Hi Zhu,

    I hold a Master’s degree from HEC, the thing is, I finished it in 12 months. How does that count, if at all?

  • Nick

    Hi Zhu,

    I hold a Master’s degree from HEC, the thing is, I finished it in 12 months. How does that count, if at all?

  • Nick

    Pardon, that was for Jennie…though Zhu – or anyone else who knows – may definitely answer!

    Thanks

  • Nick

    Pardon, that was for Jennie…though Zhu – or anyone else who knows – may definitely answer!

    Thanks

  • Angela Tisdale

    Hey i was just wondering if you can get a citizenship if your your great great grandfather was from france?

  • Angela Tisdale

    Hey i was just wondering if you can get a citizenship if your your great great grandfather was from france?

  • Robin

    I was wondering, is it possible to get dual citizenship if you were born there ,but you’re parents are America, and you were born on a Air force base..Also my brother and i were required to sign papers in our senior year relinquishing our rights to France, only we were just told were to sign,not we were signing,,,Just vaguely remember doing so,…Is there any perks to having dual citizenship?

  • Robin

    I was wondering, is it possible to get dual citizenship if you were born there ,but you’re parents are America, and you were born on a Air force base..Also my brother and i were required to sign papers in our senior year relinquishing our rights to France, only we were just told were to sign,not we were signing,,,Just vaguely remember doing so,…Is there any perks to having dual citizenship?

  • Russ

    I had the very same thing happen to me. Please let me know if you find out anything

    Thanks
    Russ

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